(the black is a covering of rust converter to stop it getting worse)
I`m a newbie to the whole resto business so any advice would be apreciated
Cheers...
Rusty
Rusty
Whatcha reccon is the best course of action to repair this?
(the black is a covering of rust converter to stop it getting worse)
I`m a newbie to the whole resto business so any advice would be apreciated
Cheers...
(the black is a covering of rust converter to stop it getting worse)
I`m a newbie to the whole resto business so any advice would be apreciated
Cheers...
FB's=Friggin Bewdyful
I would use some fairly thin mild steel welding rod (thinner than a coat hanger) and just braze it on for the top step heating the rod first then keeping it in the flame while you create a small pool on the body itself.
Does that make sense?
The bottom step I would perhaps use a mig. I would make a bridge in the centre part where it is closest before opening out to the big gap. Let it cool down. Then that will make two holes instead of one long one. The left hole you should be able to zig zag up with the mig in one pass. I would put it on a low wire speed setting.
The bigger hole on the right I would bridge the gap on the right. Then do one pass down the bottom and leave to cool. Then close up that top part. Then do a couple of passes to close it up.
Grind it all down and see what is left. If any holes left they will be smaller and it is just a matter of doing again.
I hope this helps.
Cheers
Damo
Does that make sense?
The bottom step I would perhaps use a mig. I would make a bridge in the centre part where it is closest before opening out to the big gap. Let it cool down. Then that will make two holes instead of one long one. The left hole you should be able to zig zag up with the mig in one pass. I would put it on a low wire speed setting.
The bigger hole on the right I would bridge the gap on the right. Then do one pass down the bottom and leave to cool. Then close up that top part. Then do a couple of passes to close it up.
Grind it all down and see what is left. If any holes left they will be smaller and it is just a matter of doing again.
I hope this helps.
Cheers
Damo
I wouldn't do anything to it, Just give it to me
You are better off fabricating new pieces from 1.1 Zincanneal sheet, and weld them in. If you do what Dan suggests (and don't get me wrong in what he is saying, his practice has applications) In the area your targeting, is quite rusty, not to bad on the outside, but eaten pretty bad on the inside, where you cant see and if you plug weld so to speak, you will fill with steel (no questions asked) but the panel will rust before your very eyes, where you have repaired it.
There is a certain amount of steel that you can weld into rusty panel without having the original sections of the panel rusting further, this is aided in the increased temp of the steel when its welded and the natural oils in the steel sweat out, leaving them unprotected.
Its the same when you heat steel sheet, and leave it unprotected, it rust very quickly compared to a piece that hasn't been heated.
And in the area your repairing is pretty hard to protect it from the inside. Thats just my opinion.
Regards John
You are better off fabricating new pieces from 1.1 Zincanneal sheet, and weld them in. If you do what Dan suggests (and don't get me wrong in what he is saying, his practice has applications) In the area your targeting, is quite rusty, not to bad on the outside, but eaten pretty bad on the inside, where you cant see and if you plug weld so to speak, you will fill with steel (no questions asked) but the panel will rust before your very eyes, where you have repaired it.
There is a certain amount of steel that you can weld into rusty panel without having the original sections of the panel rusting further, this is aided in the increased temp of the steel when its welded and the natural oils in the steel sweat out, leaving them unprotected.
Its the same when you heat steel sheet, and leave it unprotected, it rust very quickly compared to a piece that hasn't been heated.
And in the area your repairing is pretty hard to protect it from the inside. Thats just my opinion.
Regards John
There's nothing as Sweet as a EK V8
Appreciate all ideas (as stated) but being someone who has very little xp in welding and not wanting to have to revisit the problem I would opt for cuting out and replacing.
Question, would you cut top of section below seam to keep integrity of area?
So the procedure is
1. sourcing plate
2. carefully cutting with grinder/cutting disk
3. hammering and shaping plate to same spec as cutpout
4. fit piece into place and recheck looks right
5. spot into place
6. join welds
7. grind/sand/finish
8. prime
All this said.... around what cost u reccon i'd be looking at to get someone to do for me at a panel shop?
Question, would you cut top of section below seam to keep integrity of area?
So the procedure is
1. sourcing plate
2. carefully cutting with grinder/cutting disk
3. hammering and shaping plate to same spec as cutpout
4. fit piece into place and recheck looks right
5. spot into place
6. join welds
7. grind/sand/finish
8. prime
All this said.... around what cost u reccon i'd be looking at to get someone to do for me at a panel shop?
FB's=Friggin Bewdyful