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http://www.fbekholden.com/forum/viewtop ... &start=945I am starting an ID Plate thread. Please place your ID plate here & then I will put it in the right catagory.
To help with our registry and research .....
Please post up ...
1. ID Plate pic.
Body, Trim, Paint, Insert, Top
2. Chassis Number.
3. Engine number.
4. Date of sale (if you have the service book or sales receipt from new
A. Colour and trim codes have the most interest to me in my research.
1. Colours can be most interesting, especially the rare "nitrocellulose/ Duco colours" (pre June 1960). There are colours I am yet to see and maybe they may turn up. Finding a rare original colour it cool though, It is exciting to see a tag (even on a colour changed car), that had a rare colour from the factory just the same. Finding some colours may prove impossible. This is also true of the many, many original "Holden fleet colours" that have all but disappeared. This should add value to these beautiful cars.
2. The most common main colours appear to have been Snowcrest White, Wedgwood Blue, Twilight Turquoise, Seagull Grey, Cameo Beige, Strata Blue and Honey Beige by the plates that have been kindly presented. There are also many colour combinations which have been lost.
3. Nitro/Duco (Pre June 60) colours such as Biscay Green, Buckskin, Royal Glow, Raphael Ivory, I am yet to see.
4. Acrylic/Dulon (Post June 1960) Colours as Ceramic Brown, Coast Ivory, Welland red, I'd love to see an original old finish.
5. Just as exciting as the early FB "nitro colours" (which had that small window of factory application), are the EK Vans and Utes produced at Holden on the same production line as the EJ Holden. The 1962 Paint choices I have seen so far, have been Pittwater Green, Katherine Beige, Silverton Grey, Cottesloe Cream.
6. Eventually we may end up with a register of many colour combination that we can rely on and enjoy.
7. The first three digits of the Trim code, relate to the paint or paint combo to inform the production line painters at glimpse the colour(s) to be applied. A full list of these codes will only be revealed with more ID plates added to the list or a lucky find in GMH records. I am happy to say the blanks are slowly being filled in.
B. Subframe numbers are very important to this list and tie the complete picture together.
1. The Utes and Vans produced during the EJ Manufacture, give us an excellent educated guess, at how many Vans and Utes were produced in total, and assembles in each state. These sometimes unique coloured vehicles, also offer a total production figure for each state of all EKs, as the vehicles still carried EK subframes.
2. Subfames numbers also give us an insight into the states such as Brisbane and Perth, which were not producing Bodies. These help once again with state to state sales figures comparisons.
C. Like subframes, Engine numbers run mostly sequential as the data collected is showing.
1. With this data we are collecting, cars that have had an engine replaced with as an EJ "J" prefix engine number, and "L" prefix FE - FC engine can try to track down and engine that may be close to there original if they so desire.
2. Engine numbers starting at B1001 for FB. A low engine number can offer a date reference if still the original motor. EK numbers at around B175000.
D. Body Numbers. A major source to acquire the build numbers of each shape and dress.
1. How many wagons did they make in standards and specials etc ....
2. What build number did the Nitro finish stop in each state.
3. Are there any proto-types or "No 1" build cars left? this exercise may offer a story or two or even a discovery.
ID Tags also offer some unique secrets like Auto's in standards, Army and other government vehicles, Stamping mistakes, etc.
Once we have a comprehensive list, all the above and many more things will come to light in a very clear and helpful presentation.
Thanks everyone for the help.
Steve Jackson
***Last estimate update 31 December 2010***
Estimates with the Highest Holden ID plates and the chassis numbers we have in our data base so far as to production numbers .....
Highest is the largest chassis number from that state found so far.
FB 215 Standard Sedan
FB 215 2038 A ..... FB 16696 A ..... 29-Mar-61 ...... Highest FB 17644 A
FB 215 2753 M
FB 215 4711 S ..... FB 48836 S ......... Highest FB 61484 S
215 Standard Sedan Total 7601
FB 225 Secial sedan
FB 225 13726 A ........ FB 17644 A .......Highest ... FB 16696 A .... Mar-61
FB 225 25911 M ........ FB 57022 M .... Highest ... FB 57092 M
FB 225 36234 S ........ FB19720 B ...... Highest .... FB 20507 B ... 3/3/61
225 Special Sedan Total 75871
FB 219 Standard wagon
FB 219 A
FB 219 920 M
FB 219 S
219 Standard Wagon Total 920 Estimate 3,000
FB 229 Special Wagon
FB 229 17838 A ...... FB 51789 S ...... Highest FB 61484 S
FB 229 16492 M ....... Higher than FB 57092 M
FB 229 18595 S ........ FB 19720 B .... 3/3/61 .... FB 20507 B
229 Special Wagon Total 52925
FB 2104 Van
FB 2104 8354 A ...... FB 54490 M ...... Highest FB 57092 M
2104 Van Total 8354
FB 2106
FB 2106 3681 A ......FB 10986 P
FB 2106 S4 486 A (Army)
FB 2106 6480 M ..... FB 55431 M ...... Highest FB 57092 M
FB 2106 10101 S ..... FB 55727 S ...... Highest FB 61484 S
2106 Ute Total 20748
Export Aprox 6,000
Total counted 173,000
FB-215
FB215-905-A Adelaide FB Standard Sedan, Morning Grey, Red Trim ..... Wayne Jackson
FB/215-2400M Melbourne Standard Sedan / Colleen Green .... nigesFB215 Betsy, my FB 215
***Unusual "Back Slash" between Model Letters & Numbers.
FB-225
FB-225-6478-A Adelaide, FB Special Sedan, Sherwood Green / Colleen Green ... Now Blue / White - Steve Jackson
FB-225-8511-A , Adelaide, FB Specail Sedan, Pyramid Coral / Grecian White .... NoMad's FB
FB225-11908-A Adelaide, Specail Sedan, Seagull Grey, Grecian White, Thommo's
FB-225-18895-S Sydney, Morning Grey, Grecian White,
***Rare 500 Trim Code 941***
FB225-20205-S Sydney FB Special Sedan, Sherwood Green / Colleen Green ... Craig's
FB225-32423-S-Sydney , Special Sedan, Kodiak Brown, Grecian White ...... matchew's Car
*** Very Late FB Sydney.
FB-229
FB-2104
"4015" Adelaide, Panel Van , Banff Blue, "The Facts"
EK-215
EK-215-57-S Sydney, EK Standard Sedan, Snowcrest White, Auto , Grey Trim ... Steve Jackson
*** Very Early Number "57"
EK-215-283- Adelaide. Standard Sedan , Valetta Green , fxfjholden (Jason's)
EK-215-2540-S Sydney, EK Standard Sedan, Prospect Ivory, Green Trim, Keith & Colleen Lumsden.
*** Fleet Colour for Prospect County Council.
EK-219
EK-219-80-S Sydney, EK Standard Wagon, Cataract Grey, Red Trim .... Steve Jackson
*** Rare Early Number "80"
EK-225
EK225-1152-S Sydney, Special Sedan, Alamo Beige with a Snowcrest white roof. ...... Mephious Now Red
EK-225-5142M Melbourne, Tartan Turquoise / Snowcrest White, Rosco]
EK-229
***What can I say ... We have a winner! ***
EK-229-4095- Sydney Special Wagon. Argosy Turquoise, SnowCrest White / White Blue Trim. Ratbox's ....[/u]
EK/229-4155M Melbourne EK Special Wagon Cameo Beige / Parisian Lilac Now all Cameo ... Sam Crupi
*** There is that stroke again, maybe all Melb ID Plates
EK229-4166-S Sydney, Dusk Plum / Cant read the next number Finny?
***Different states but close to Sam Crupi's 4155-M Finny's 4166-S
EK-229-7142-S Sydney Special Wagon Originally Egyptian Tan / Snowcrest White. Now all White ... Wayne Jackson's
EK-2104
EK2104-6805-A Adelaide, Panel Van, Katherine Beige, ..... Mephious
EK2104-830-A Adelaide, Panel Van, Honey Beige, Thommo
*** Low number 830 *** Government Ordered Fleet Van for
the Electricty Trust of South Australia
