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Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:46 pm
by Mick
funny how they're all listed as good condition, i'de hate to buy a car off him if he thinks the tag 229-9M is good condition :shock: :lol:

Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:58 pm
by ekwags62
Thought that plate was suss was going to say but held my tongue as all this is new to me.
Harry186 he has quite a few listings and says they're gc. I think not

Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:48 am
by Aussie Bob
harry186 wrote:this as usual could go on for ever back and forth :roll:


Steve Jackson wrote: this car has 26 of those features
without the list in front of me some were not prem features and alot were available on EK's anyway and it's kinda been established that the motor had been changed so nothing on the engine could be counted as it may have come with the replacement engine

at the end of the day as with JP's car it makes no difference to me wether it's real or not you 2 are the only ones who benefit if people believe you or not

for the record i do think yor car is something special, as for JP's like most i've never seen it so can't or shouldn't comment :wink:
Firsts Mick, the features are listed if you would bother to do your research before rushing in with opinions as usual :roll:

Second who knows if the engine was Holden fitted or not? It has been suggested to me by three experts that the engine could be. It is well documented that Holden changed many engines on their cars that they owned without notifying Vic Roads. This car was owned by Holden ..... Documented.

Third, many people would see the gold ek as a benefit to the history and research of early Holden history, but not you!


Last, sorry to hear the car is nothing special to you :thumbsdown:

Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 4:24 pm
by Mick
i know they were listed but couldn't be bothered looking but as you insist
Here are the differences for memory from the usual EK Special.

1. Euroa Gold Metallic Paint.

2. Painted (Satin) Gold Dash top.

3. Painted Gold inner window dividers. nothing to do with EJ prems

4. Golf Ball Hood Lining. not EJ prem

5. Three chromed clamps on inner top of windscreen ? not EJ prem

6. Power Steering

7. White steering wheel. available for EK's

8. Radio. available for EK'S

9. Heater / Dimister. available for EK's

10. Two speed whipers. available for EK's

11. Dual Horns. available for EK's

13. Washer Wipers. available for EK's

14. Door Arm rests front and rear.

15. Seat Arm rests front and rear.

16. Cloth seats. not EJ prem

17. Carpet.

18. Glovebox light. available for EK's

19. Boot Light. not sure probably available

20. Chrome door scuff plates.

21. Thumb press dress rims. EK option

22. Power Boosted brakes. EK option

23. EJ style "low coil mount" side plate. could have come with replacement engine

24. EJ "top ledge" radiator. as above

25. Alloy Rocker cover (was painted metallic Red and Gold with Metallic Green oil cap). as above

26. Day / Night mirror. not sure more than likely an EK option

that's correct that's what i said earlier who knows if the engine was factory fitted who knows if any of it was factory fitted it's all educated guesses :wink: as to the engine there's a couple of clues to me that would point away from holden, the fact it's a from memory FE or FC, rocker cover, the red garden hose for a heater hose

so that leaves 5 things all of which as i've said were more than likely factory done and that is by no means a proffessional opinion just my opinion :wink: i'm not running around saying i'm an expert :roll: on these cars but as i said i've pulled down and rebuilt from virtually nothing my fare share to give me a bit of a clue not just searched the internet (which is a real reliable source of info :roll: :lol: ) as i said to you my opinion of the car was it's just an optioned up car for the boss and it's special for that reason

alot of people get excited about that sort of thing but not really me it's definately interesting though

i don't own it why would it be anything special to me :?

Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:45 pm
by wot179
Just a thought on all these tags for sale.

Isnt selling tags illegal?

Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:58 pm
by Mick
don't know it used to be illegal to remove them

Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:05 pm
by Trev
wot179 wrote:Just a thought on all these tags for sale.

Isnt selling tags illegal?
I can't see why, you don't even need them for rego :roll: .

Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:15 am
by Aussie Bob
harry186 wrote:i know they were listed but couldn't be bothered looking but as you insist
Here are the differences for memory from the usual EK Special.

1. Euroa Gold Metallic Paint.

2. Painted (Satin) Gold Dash top.

3. Painted Gold inner window dividers. nothing to do with EJ prems

4. Golf Ball Hood Lining. not EJ prem

5. Three chromed clamps on inner top of windscreen ? not EJ prem

6. Power Steering

7. White steering wheel. available for EK's

8. Radio. available for EK'S

9. Heater / Dimister. available for EK's

10. Two speed whipers. available for EK's

11. Dual Horns. available for EK's

13. Washer Wipers. available for EK's

14. Door Arm rests front and rear.

15. Seat Arm rests front and rear.

16. Cloth seats. not EJ prem

17. Carpet.

18. Glovebox light. available for EK's

19. Boot Light. not sure probably available

20. Chrome door scuff plates.

21. Thumb press dress rims. EK option

22. Power Boosted brakes. EK option

23. EJ style "low coil mount" side plate. could have come with replacement engine

24. EJ "top ledge" radiator. as above

25. Alloy Rocker cover (was painted metallic Red and Gold with Metallic Green oil cap). as above

26. Day / Night mirror. not sure more than likely an EK option

that's correct that's what i said earlier who knows if the engine was factory fitted who knows if any of it was factory fitted it's all educated guesses :wink: as to the engine there's a couple of clues to me that would point away from holden, the fact it's a from memory FE or FC, rocker cover, the red garden hose for a heater hose

so that leaves 5 things all of which as i've said were more than likely factory done and that is by no means a proffessional opinion just my opinion :wink: i'm not running around saying i'm an expert :roll: on these cars but as i said i've pulled down and rebuilt from virtually nothing my fare share to give me a bit of a clue not just searched the internet (which is a real reliable source of info :roll: :lol: ) as i said to you my opinion of the car was it's just an optioned up car for the boss and it's special for that reason

alot of people get excited about that sort of thing but not really me it's definately interesting though

i don't own it why would it be anything special to me :?
I'm not going to even bother reading your dribble, I have NO interested in your guess work!!!

Haven't you got something better to do?

Go work on your two door!

Steve

Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:25 pm
by ekwags62
Think we'll be needing to get the boxing gloves out shortly

Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:51 pm
by Mick
ekwags62 wrote:Think we'll be needing to get the boxing gloves out shortly
it's all good just 2 differing opinions :) 1 from someone with nothing to gain and another with everything to gain, as i stated right at the start it was never meant to dissrespect the car, but i just figured i had to justify my point of view when my knowledge was questioned, i'm not calling myself an expert or to have knowledge of intrcate details (such as No's and paint and trim codes) but 30 odd years of f#%king about with predominately FB/EK's and quite a few other early holdens having stripped a few to virtually nothing and rebuilding them pretty much by my self (get a hand with panel beating) i've got a bit of a clue :wink: :ebiggrin:

Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:26 pm
by Aussie Bob
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Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:48 pm
by Aussie Bob
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Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:48 pm
by Aussie Bob
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Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:50 pm
by Blacky
harry186 wrote:
ekwags62 wrote:Think we'll be needing to get the boxing gloves out shortly
it's all good just 2 differing opinions :) 1 from someone with nothing to gain and another with everything to gain, as i stated right at the start it was never meant to dissrespect the car, but i just figured i had to justify my point of view when my knowledge was questioned, i'm not calling myself an expert or to have knowledge of intrcate details (such as No's and paint and trim codes) but 30 odd years of f#%king about with predominately FB/EK's and quite a few other early holdens having stripped a few to virtually nothing and rebuilding them pretty much by my self (get a hand with panel beating) i've got a bit of a clue :wink: :ebiggrin:

If you have pulled that many apart , etc , then surely you would know that if an EK has factory metallic paint it must be more than a little bit out of the ordinary ?????
How many of those have you seen ???

If you dont think its anything special , fine , but please stop going on and on about it - people might start thinking that you are a shit stirrer :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: GMH Body Id Plate, Chassis & engine No ..... Please post

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:03 am
by Mick
if you looked i didn't question the paint :? and did say it was my opinion as with others (and also told steve to his face when i saw the car) that the car was more than likely a special build for the boss, i have seen a stock EK years ago painted in the EH premier dark metalic grey but all i saw of it was the outside and didn't really pay anymore attention to it so it could have been a respray as steve's could be, but it would have been a long time ago and a very very thorough job (and don't twist this around :roll: i'm NOT saying it has been resprayed just anything is possable)
once again i didn't say the car isn't anything special :roll: :roll: i said it's nothing special TO ME as in i don't own it and it won't change my life :roll:
i wasn't going on about it i was being questioned as to my knowledge and was pointing out what i could see
someone might be seen as a shit stirer sticking there beak in after the disscussion (which didn't involve them) had seemed to be put to bed :wink: :roll: :roll: