SunnyTim wrote:Glad to see we got back to the topic of the ute guys and gals.
As a moderator on this forum I'd ask that people just remember that quite often written text or posts can be misinterpreted or misconstrued by other people from what you intended to mean, so if you are unsure about something a person has said sometimes it is better to take it off line via a PM.
Thanks
Tim
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yep... someday...
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I hear what what you meanfbtim wrote:Dazza , the forum is very clicky in that there are a few "clicks". A great enjoyable forum with a vast amount of skill and knowlege. It's just that sometimes that "skill and knowlege" don't want to help for whatever reason. Just look at "Parts Wanted". Post up "3 speed gearbox wanted for grey motor in Melb" and get 100 views but no responses. Quite wierd.
it seams to me had there is a BOY'S club on here
THEY will NOT reply unless you SUCK up there ASE'S first
Rob
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Agreed!SunnyTim wrote: Yes there are some characters on here, but life would be pretty boring without this![]()
I think we should get back to the ute rebuild.............
Also I should note that though Daniel is wearing the captains uniform I'm the boss
~Allison
My project:
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Other family projects:
Mum's '54 FJ Holden Special Sedan
Farm Bedford grain truck
My project:
'60 Holden FB ute
Other family projects:
Mum's '54 FJ Holden Special Sedan
Farm Bedford grain truck
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Just to briefly respond (and continue the hijack), I cannot remember, given that it has been more than a decade since I last saw one. All I can remember is that it looks quite different to the standard EK unit. If you have an example of the latter, then you'll be able to tell quite quickly. Maybe Russell or SunnyTim has one or a pic of one they could show you.MeFB wrote: Could you please let me know how to identify if it is the Nasco part? (sorry to hijack your thread dazzajay).
Getting back to the ute rebuild, it's a positive that the project came with a rebuilt grey, even if it is a 132. That has saved you considerable expense there. Whacking on a set of twin Strombergs and a set of extractors will give you a little bit more torque, which combined with a 3.36 diff, should see you comfortably cruising at 60mph.
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Wayne Chambers
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FB EK Holden Car Club of N.S.W
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FB EK Holden Car Club of N.S.W
Re: mine & dazzajay's FB ute
Thats for sure and you might find they used oversized pistons.MeFB wrote: Getting back to the ute rebuild, it's a positive that the project came with a rebuilt grey, even if it is a 132. That has saved you considerable expense there. Whacking on a set of twin Strombergs and a set of extractors will give you a little bit more torque, which combined with a 3.36 diff, should see you comfortably cruising at 60mph.
Not sure but you might find it's not a 132 anymore!
gotta be happy with that...
Wayne Chambers
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FB EK Holden Car Club of N.S.W
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I don't know what ratio diff we have yet to even consider this stuff yet and to be honest all that went right over my head.SunnyTim wrote:Unless you are running really small tyres (175/70) I would suggest that the 3.55 is a more robust replacement ratio for a grey than the 3.36 unless you are doing constant higway driving and no around town. I find that at least 50% of the issues also these days are the result of undersize (profile/height) tyres being fitted and a 3.36 can be a bit too extreme a ratio if you are doing a lot of around town in a GREY with the correct size tyres (for one you loose that fantastic ability for 2nd gear take off from a snails pace.)Stygian wrote:Just to briefly respond (and continue the hijack), I cannot remember, given that it has been more than a decade since I last saw one. All I can remember is that it looks quite different to the standard EK unit. If you have an example of the latter, then you'll be able to tell quite quickly. Maybe Russell or SunnyTim has one or a pic of one they could show you.MeFB wrote: Could you please let me know how to identify if it is the Nasco part? (sorry to hijack your thread dazzajay).
Getting back to the ute rebuild, it's a positive that the project came with a rebuilt grey, even if it is a 132. That has saved you considerable expense there. Whacking on a set of twin Strombergs and a set of extractors will give you a little bit more torque, which combined with a 3.36 diff, should see you comfortably cruising at 60mph.
~Allison
My project:
'60 Holden FB ute
Other family projects:
Mum's '54 FJ Holden Special Sedan
Farm Bedford grain truck
My project:
'60 Holden FB ute
Other family projects:
Mum's '54 FJ Holden Special Sedan
Farm Bedford grain truck
Re: mine & dazzajay's FB ute
SunnyTim's point is valid. The original rolling diameter of the crossply tyre fitted was 24 inches. This worked well with the original 3.89:1 diff ratio. With the advent of radials, tyre diameters shrank, maybe to around 21-22 inches as the tyres were lower profile. Using a lower diff ratio compensates for this, but now there are radial tyres which (just) fit the standard rim and have a rolling diameter near the original 24 inches. So you need to take into consideration tyre profile when choosing a diff ratio.
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as I said I don't know, the tyres on it are reasonable new and it can be assumed that the diff on our ute is stock standard.
~Allison
My project:
'60 Holden FB ute
Other family projects:
Mum's '54 FJ Holden Special Sedan
Farm Bedford grain truck
My project:
'60 Holden FB ute
Other family projects:
Mum's '54 FJ Holden Special Sedan
Farm Bedford grain truck
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Hey guys we've made some progress the last few weeks but Daniel has been lazy with the photos after much thinking and debating we ended up grinding the passenger side guard off we found the sill to be in VERY bad state with a rust hole in the sill underneath chock a block full of sillicone and bog which has only served to encourage rust this will put us a further 6 months to a year behind target and $$ over budget 
~Allison
My project:
'60 Holden FB ute
Other family projects:
Mum's '54 FJ Holden Special Sedan
Farm Bedford grain truck
My project:
'60 Holden FB ute
Other family projects:
Mum's '54 FJ Holden Special Sedan
Farm Bedford grain truck
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not being smart...but how can one rusty guard put you 6 months- 1 year behind?
aidan...
aidan...
i'll get there....
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we need to fiddle around digging out the silicone and bog to do a full assessment of the metal rust silicone bog ratio in that one section.
Not to mention we are moving house January/February which will slow us down a few months alone.
Not to mention we are moving house January/February which will slow us down a few months alone.
~Allison
My project:
'60 Holden FB ute
Other family projects:
Mum's '54 FJ Holden Special Sedan
Farm Bedford grain truck
My project:
'60 Holden FB ute
Other family projects:
Mum's '54 FJ Holden Special Sedan
Farm Bedford grain truck
Re: mine & dazzajay's FB ute
D'ohholdenutechick wrote:we found the sill to be in VERY bad state with a rust hole in the sill underneath chock a block full of sillicone and bog
I guess the silver lining is that you wanted a project...and you certainly got one
You'll appreciate the finished product all the more.
Alan
Member No.1 of the FB EK Holden Car Club of WA (Woo-hoo
sweet!)
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Like I said before mate, cover the FJ up and focus on the ute, as you are finding out the world of restoring old holdens is full of $$$$$$urprises
Hang in there, as you'll sort out the sill problem and you'll find another challenge
But remember this is FUN
Mick
Hang in there, as you'll sort out the sill problem and you'll find another challenge
But remember this is FUN
Mick
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You really need to work out a plan for this car. Fiddling around will get you nowhere.
Look at parisians blog. I doubt there is a more thorough account of a complete resto by an amateur on this forum.
My advice is tear the car completely down.
Catalogue everything, take the body to a professional beater that knows what they are doing and get ready for the twenty grand bill just for the body and paint. Plus the other ten grand for the rest.
Alternatively go to the bank borrow $ 25000 and buy one that is the way you want it. You will probably pay $ 200 a week and You can drive it straight away and get on with the fun part.
Talk to Samprinci on this forum about his ute. He started out much the same as you guys but he took a route somewhere inbetween these two bits of advice.
Last week I looked at an unfinished project that effectively destroyed the car. It was a windowless panel van that had a mint body. They had it sandblasted and then left it outside for years. It was a mess. I wish I had found it before a dreamer had got to it.
Look at parisians blog. I doubt there is a more thorough account of a complete resto by an amateur on this forum.
My advice is tear the car completely down.
Catalogue everything, take the body to a professional beater that knows what they are doing and get ready for the twenty grand bill just for the body and paint. Plus the other ten grand for the rest.
Alternatively go to the bank borrow $ 25000 and buy one that is the way you want it. You will probably pay $ 200 a week and You can drive it straight away and get on with the fun part.
Talk to Samprinci on this forum about his ute. He started out much the same as you guys but he took a route somewhere inbetween these two bits of advice.
Last week I looked at an unfinished project that effectively destroyed the car. It was a windowless panel van that had a mint body. They had it sandblasted and then left it outside for years. It was a mess. I wish I had found it before a dreamer had got to it.