FB219 Standard StationSedan
Re: FB219 Standard StationSedan
We are now pretty much at the current day.
It was now time to tackle the job we had been dreading. With it being difficult enough just trying to get everything to neatly fit in the bay, be functional and serviceable making headers and an exhaust system was a job that we were not looking forward to.
Doing this and getting the end result we did was way above my skill level so full credit to Tim with this. I think he ended up doing a killer job. Fenderwalls are not to everyone’s taste but I’m stoked with how it turned out.
Primaries are 1 7/8” to a 3” collector which is way overkill for a N/A 5.3 but pretty much everything on this build (except chopping up the tubs) has been done to allow for future upgrades. The ECU, diff, fuel system and suspension have all been built so that if down the track I want to step up the power levels the foundations are there.
So while it may be a bit of an overkill for this version of the build I’ve left options open for future upgradeability. There’s that scope creep we have been talking about…. But I guess down the track it may help?
Anyway, Tim got himself in the right frame of mind to tackle the job and he nailed it in my opinion. He has made it so if I do want to drop the pipes at the track it isn’t too much of an ordeal and day to day running the car should have a nice note without being too obnoxious or droney given that it’s a wagon.
Started with the hardest side…
As you can see with the above, rocker cover mounted coils had to be sacrificed…. Doesn’t really look it but plugs are still accessible. Master cylinder will be heat shrouded
Onto the other side. As I’ve mentioned earlier, Tim’s eye starts twitching when thinks aren’t centered and symetrical. The engine is actually offset 30mm so he had to compensate some runner length on the passenger side to make it all look symmetrical…..
From the 3” collector it is now v banded. From
Here it steps down to 2.5” tucks back in between the Y frames and heads out over the diff through after passing through the usual x pipe, flex joints, cats and flow masters which Tim is currently finishing off.
One thing that was surprising and something Tim had to keep an eye on was how much steering lock this front end has. It’s pretty impressive to be honest so running the exhaust back through the Y frames took a few goes to steer clear of everything and allow plenty of clearance (no pun intended)
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It was now time to tackle the job we had been dreading. With it being difficult enough just trying to get everything to neatly fit in the bay, be functional and serviceable making headers and an exhaust system was a job that we were not looking forward to.
Doing this and getting the end result we did was way above my skill level so full credit to Tim with this. I think he ended up doing a killer job. Fenderwalls are not to everyone’s taste but I’m stoked with how it turned out.
Primaries are 1 7/8” to a 3” collector which is way overkill for a N/A 5.3 but pretty much everything on this build (except chopping up the tubs) has been done to allow for future upgrades. The ECU, diff, fuel system and suspension have all been built so that if down the track I want to step up the power levels the foundations are there.
So while it may be a bit of an overkill for this version of the build I’ve left options open for future upgradeability. There’s that scope creep we have been talking about…. But I guess down the track it may help?
Anyway, Tim got himself in the right frame of mind to tackle the job and he nailed it in my opinion. He has made it so if I do want to drop the pipes at the track it isn’t too much of an ordeal and day to day running the car should have a nice note without being too obnoxious or droney given that it’s a wagon.
Started with the hardest side…
As you can see with the above, rocker cover mounted coils had to be sacrificed…. Doesn’t really look it but plugs are still accessible. Master cylinder will be heat shrouded
Onto the other side. As I’ve mentioned earlier, Tim’s eye starts twitching when thinks aren’t centered and symetrical. The engine is actually offset 30mm so he had to compensate some runner length on the passenger side to make it all look symmetrical…..
From the 3” collector it is now v banded. From
Here it steps down to 2.5” tucks back in between the Y frames and heads out over the diff through after passing through the usual x pipe, flex joints, cats and flow masters which Tim is currently finishing off.
One thing that was surprising and something Tim had to keep an eye on was how much steering lock this front end has. It’s pretty impressive to be honest so running the exhaust back through the Y frames took a few goes to steer clear of everything and allow plenty of clearance (no pun intended)
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Re: FB219 Standard StationSedan
Well he certainly nailed the symetrical bit pipes are a right pain in the arse on these things, I have been thnking about what to do on the 2 door if I ever get to that stage and there are no easy options .....
I started with nothing and still have most of it left.
Foundation member #61 of FB/EK Holden club of W.A.
Foundation member #61 of FB/EK Holden club of W.A.
Re: FB219 Standard StationSedan
Finally got a chance to get a bit more done over the break.
The whole car was rust proofed at some stage and coated in a bitumen deadner.
Gurneyed of years of grime and then the horrid task of removing old deadner.
Tried a bit of heat in an inconspicuous spot but it didn’t take much to blister the paint so messy paint stripper it was.
A few old sins under the deadner, lots of patches over the years and a replacement guard at some stage by the looks but good enough for this old shitter.
Once the old deader was removed a few rounds of deoxidine and scrubbing to treat the metal and some easy phos for good measure.
The plan was to epoxy and raptor coat the whole undercarriage of the car. I hate body, prep and paint so tried to take the easy option and use the raptor epoxy aerosol for the guards. As soon as the first drop of paint come out of the can I knew something wasn’t right. I should have stopped when the product was coming out like powder but I kept going hoping I could give it a light sand. No joy. Turns out the epoxy was 18months out of date…. Got my money back but back to square one with paint stripper, deox and easy phos…. F&$k!!!!
Finally cleaned up for the second time and this time resorted to the old faithful epotec. Always stoked with the result of this stuff. Let it cure, scuffed up with some scotch brite, wax and grease, tack cloth then on with the raptor.
Not perfect but good enough for the old heap and should last a few more years at least. I absolutely hate body/prep/paint work not looking forward to doing the body but at least that’s been blasted and in bare metal. It certainly makes me appreciate blokes that do his for a living. I don’t have the patience for it that’s for sure..
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The whole car was rust proofed at some stage and coated in a bitumen deadner.
Gurneyed of years of grime and then the horrid task of removing old deadner.
Tried a bit of heat in an inconspicuous spot but it didn’t take much to blister the paint so messy paint stripper it was.
A few old sins under the deadner, lots of patches over the years and a replacement guard at some stage by the looks but good enough for this old shitter.
Once the old deader was removed a few rounds of deoxidine and scrubbing to treat the metal and some easy phos for good measure.
The plan was to epoxy and raptor coat the whole undercarriage of the car. I hate body, prep and paint so tried to take the easy option and use the raptor epoxy aerosol for the guards. As soon as the first drop of paint come out of the can I knew something wasn’t right. I should have stopped when the product was coming out like powder but I kept going hoping I could give it a light sand. No joy. Turns out the epoxy was 18months out of date…. Got my money back but back to square one with paint stripper, deox and easy phos…. F&$k!!!!
Finally cleaned up for the second time and this time resorted to the old faithful epotec. Always stoked with the result of this stuff. Let it cure, scuffed up with some scotch brite, wax and grease, tack cloth then on with the raptor.
Not perfect but good enough for the old heap and should last a few more years at least. I absolutely hate body/prep/paint work not looking forward to doing the body but at least that’s been blasted and in bare metal. It certainly makes me appreciate blokes that do his for a living. I don’t have the patience for it that’s for sure..
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Re: FB219 Standard StationSedan
Epotec
I found straight kero works well with old schutz Brendon. Sprayed on with my degreaser gun on the compressor. Wait five minutes and most of it wipes off. Wire brush the stubborn bits. As long as it is bitumen based.
This thing is going to be bloody awesome!
FB ute fixer upper, EK van on rotisserie
I found straight kero works well with old schutz Brendon. Sprayed on with my degreaser gun on the compressor. Wait five minutes and most of it wipes off. Wire brush the stubborn bits. As long as it is bitumen based.
This thing is going to be bloody awesome!
FB ute fixer upper, EK van on rotisserie
getting my FB ute on the road
EK van on rotisserie
EK van on rotisserie
Re: FB219 Standard StationSedan
I'm waiting to see you drill 4" holes in those guards so the fenderwell header collectors can poke through
Mebbe in the US... not so much here.
Cheers,
Harv
Mebbe in the US... not so much here.
Cheers,
Harv
327 Chev EK wagon, original EK ute for Number 1 Daughter, an FB sedan meth monster project and a BB/MD grey motored FED.
Re: FB219 Standard StationSedan
They are v banded at the collector for easy/ish dumpage
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Re: FB219 Standard StationSedan
More progress, stripped bumper mount pulling it apart so that’s now sorted again..
Wide band sensor/bung and rest of the exhaust close to being finished
Rough final position, whole exhaust will be ceramic coated black to try keep it conspicuous. Left long until the towbar is sorted then will trim back at the bumper.
Coils mounted. Running out of space for things… will hopefully be safe from speed humps and road kill protected by the cross member.
List is kind of getting smaller….
Have booked a caravan site at Temora as there was no suitable family accomodation we could find so now I have a car and a caravan to finish in 12 months…..
Why do we do this to ourselves?
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Wide band sensor/bung and rest of the exhaust close to being finished
Rough final position, whole exhaust will be ceramic coated black to try keep it conspicuous. Left long until the towbar is sorted then will trim back at the bumper.
Coils mounted. Running out of space for things… will hopefully be safe from speed humps and road kill protected by the cross member.
List is kind of getting smaller….
Have booked a caravan site at Temora as there was no suitable family accomodation we could find so now I have a car and a caravan to finish in 12 months…..
Why do we do this to ourselves?
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Re: FB219 Standard StationSedan
Very thorough on the bumper mount thread Brendon, to say the least.
FB ute fixer upper, EK van on rotisserie
FB ute fixer upper, EK van on rotisserie
getting my FB ute on the road
EK van on rotisserie
EK van on rotisserie
Re: FB219 Standard StationSedan
If you are anything like me you need a deadline to work to or nothing will get doneBS wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:24 pm
Why do we do this to ourselves?
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left.
Foundation member #61 of FB/EK Holden club of W.A.
Foundation member #61 of FB/EK Holden club of W.A.
Re: FB219 Standard StationSedan
Yeah nothing like a bit of extra pressure to make everything that more enjoyable….Blacky wrote:If you are anything like me you need a deadline to work to or nothing will get doneBS wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:24 pm
Why do we do this to ourselves?
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Re: FB219 Standard StationSedan
Great work there BS.
I got my caltracs from Mcdonald bros engineering and had to modify the front mounts substantially to get them to fit how i wanted.
Not sure if you have solid bushes in the front spring eyes or not, i chose to use nolathane, so it was necessary to spread the hanger and make a bush to fill the void the original bolt head occupied.
Now ive run the car on the open road ive found the caltract quite comfortable to live with, in saying that all the nolathane in my front end will be coming out and i will go back to rubber, just to quiten the road noise down a little,
The snowball effect you have described is part and parcel, but you are certainly winning the battle, look forward to more updates.
Regards Greg
I got my caltracs from Mcdonald bros engineering and had to modify the front mounts substantially to get them to fit how i wanted.
Not sure if you have solid bushes in the front spring eyes or not, i chose to use nolathane, so it was necessary to spread the hanger and make a bush to fill the void the original bolt head occupied.
Now ive run the car on the open road ive found the caltract quite comfortable to live with, in saying that all the nolathane in my front end will be coming out and i will go back to rubber, just to quiten the road noise down a little,
The snowball effect you have described is part and parcel, but you are certainly winning the battle, look forward to more updates.
Regards Greg
So many cars so little time!
Re: FB219 Standard StationSedan
6 months since an update…..
Lots of work and not much play, Tim is in the same boat but managing we are managing to get one day every 3 weeks set aside to knock a bit out on the wagon. Prior planning, having parts and pieces ready to go we are managing to cross jobs off the list.
We are now at the point where the exhaust is done, aircon in, entire car plumbed, throttle sorted as well as lots of fiddly other shit.
We have got it to the point where bar wiring it would have run. Auto sparky has had a look and given us a bit of direction so we are to the point of now blowing the car apart, final fab and welding up of a few things, then paint/finishes and final assembly.
I’ll take 2 or 3 weeks off over Xmas and the plan will be to finish the last the fab work (tunnel and unused firewall holes), get some paint under it and in the engine bay and start assembling it so it can go to the auto sparky and tuner in Feb.
Caravan is off to fit out also so nats milestone is on schedule but the old budget has taken a beating….
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Lots of work and not much play, Tim is in the same boat but managing we are managing to get one day every 3 weeks set aside to knock a bit out on the wagon. Prior planning, having parts and pieces ready to go we are managing to cross jobs off the list.
We are now at the point where the exhaust is done, aircon in, entire car plumbed, throttle sorted as well as lots of fiddly other shit.
We have got it to the point where bar wiring it would have run. Auto sparky has had a look and given us a bit of direction so we are to the point of now blowing the car apart, final fab and welding up of a few things, then paint/finishes and final assembly.
I’ll take 2 or 3 weeks off over Xmas and the plan will be to finish the last the fab work (tunnel and unused firewall holes), get some paint under it and in the engine bay and start assembling it so it can go to the auto sparky and tuner in Feb.
Caravan is off to fit out also so nats milestone is on schedule but the old budget has taken a beating….
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Re: FB219 Standard StationSedan
Lets hope you get to Temora - I reckon this wagon will be a fair bit different to last time I saw it !!
I started with nothing and still have most of it left.
Foundation member #61 of FB/EK Holden club of W.A.
Foundation member #61 of FB/EK Holden club of W.A.