it may not be a wasted van yet
mine's not chopped and i doubt it ever will be so yor not coppying a thing
can we all get off this coppying thing it wasn't my problem it was the other knuckle head who had the problem
can't wate to see prima
oldnek wrote:Still looks like your cutting up a perfectly good panno to me
The donor van isnt as good as it looks
While cutting out the larger roof patch, we lent on a section
of roof which collapsed in, exposing fibreglass & bog
While its good to make progress, I still have a long way to go.
Thanks for the encouragement everyone
I cant wait to get this going
Guys
Ive been having serious thoughts about choping my sedan for about 15 years now and to be honest the action is looking to be popular at the moment with all custom cars.
I can do the rear and get the glass cut but the front is not going to be that easy.
Jeff are you going to get a new screen made if so where and how much?
Has anybody seen a front screen cut to suit a chop?
I keep measuring and walking around with a loaded grinder but havent had the balls yet!
I haven't priced up a windscreen yet, but I am assured it can be done,
there are plenty of chopped cars in and around Adelaide.
Between myself & Axeman we need to have four done at various heights.
I'll cross that bridge when we get there.
the front is the easy part if there is an easy part, i've got no idea how yor gunna get a rear screen cut cause they're tuffened glass and that can't be cut, harko has a cut front screen and there's a link earlier in this thread to clatsworthy, who has started on a mould for a 3" chopped screen if you can deal with his arrogance if and when he gets around to it they will be over the counter 3" lower screens
I spoke to Streetneat about his screens, you need to chop the car exactly as he has to make them fit, i.e. leave the roof standard width and pull the pillars in/out to match them up again.
The deal was ten windscreens all the same off a supplied mould for $3000
I started with nothing and still have most of it left.
Foundation member #61 of FB/EK Holden club of W.A.
that guy's a theif
i was quoted a few years back when i did the pink chop top $1500 take the car to the guy he would make a mould that i would own and make the first windscreen then screens would be $150 each after that
from memory he was out riverstone NSW way he did screens for ferraris,lambos and kit cars and stuff
Yes,
Its going to be expensive either way you look at it.
Im going to do more research on this one!
Ratbox you are right you can't cut toughened glass, I was thinking I saw someone who ground them down but can't remember who or where.
If its going to cost $3000 for the front then $3000 for the back cause it will be a one off, I dare say it's getting to dear.
Im wondering if they can be treated back to soft then retoughened after being cut? How much will this cost .
Be careful, mine only started out a rebuild with a v6, now look at it. I draw the line at chopping the roof.
I've even stopped looking at other cars, I just want to finish it now.
With all this talk of chop tops I need to add that I will be chopping a sedan in the next month or so , and glass guidellines read something like , If "you have" glass in the vehicle it has to be safety glass .
See the loophole
I ran lexan front and rear in my ute and it scratches very easy but if you dont mind taking care of and replacing it when necesary then you can have any god damn shape window you desire
I had a glass screen cut down and ran into clearance probs with the original rubber that can be overcome .
So please anyone who wants to chop something go right ahead ,They all look better afterwoods
no trev, you pay $1500 he makes the mould which you own and the price includes the first windscreen, after that if you want another windscreen costs you $150, you only have to get 1 or as many screens as you like at a time
compared with buying 10 windscreens (god knows what you'de do with 'em) for $3000 and not owning the mould
after the mould is made a windscreen is only cheap to make so even breaking it down he's charging $300 each for something that costs about $150 to make
greg i'm led to beleive you can't do anything with toughened glass cutting/grinding it has like a seal and as soon as that's broken it just shatters
things you can do is sink the screen down into the boot area or change the shape and use a screen out of something else or there's always lexcan
come on smooth customs share some of yor wealth of experiance i'm just going on bits and peices that i've picked up yor the real deal
A chop is possibly the biggest piece of Customizing that is performed in an attempt to make a car stand out.
There are varied ways to chop a roof to achieve the desired look, and every person that performs this change believes that there way is the one to do. I dont even want to start on this topic.
Once the roof is in its new position with all its new openings, glass is required to finish off the desired look.
This is where it all comes unstuck, reality strikes and the owner/builder is confronted with the requirement of safety or laminated glass in every opening. No plastic is allowed.
With over 30 years in doing chops in three different states NO PLASTIC is allowed as a replacement for glass.
I have been through all the different types of cutting laminated screens and there is no one sure way of achieving the desired result 100% of the time.
I have been lucky on the first attempt and have lost nine screens on one job! and went through three glass specalists in doing it.
The only way to get exactly what you want is to have a screen manufactured.Its not hard it only costs money!
An FB EK requires the making of a double hinged furnace mould for the forming of a new front screen.
But before the furnace mould can be made a sample of the required screen must be supplied as apattern
In the 70's I worked out the easiest way to do this was to make a mould of the standard screen in fibreglass and then make a fibreglass sample from the mould.
this sample can be cut down till it conforms to the new opening shape and then fine tuning is done using a screen rubber till it can be easily installed.
Once you are happy with your sample a manufacturing company can be found to produce a double hinged furnace mould, this is the most involved type of furnace mould that is needed to make a screen required for an FB EK opening
The last time I had this type of job done was a couple of years ago and it cost me $3,000, that price included four screen.
I make sure I retain the ownership of this mould or the owner of the car depending on who covers the manufacturing costs
I find this a most acceptable cost and method of achieving the end result, and making this modification 100% legal once engineered.
Using this method it makes screens available to others that want to have a chopped roof and when a screen is broken (and it does happen when you use your custom) an affordable replacement is available.
I have copied an arctile here from an old
Custom Vans & Trucks #24 1982.
It shows the build up of Rod Hadfields Chopped EK Van.
The article clearly shows a laminated windscreen being ground to fit,
and the minor mods needed to make it fit the van.
Hi Thommo, Good to see some progress, when i did the convertale John at Complete Windscreens Salisbury did the job.
I supplied a laminated $160 bscreen from a place at Regency Park and $180 later all done!
He cuts both sides and finishes of with an angle grinder.
HEMI