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I thought Id post this for those who havnt seen it and would be interested.
The seminars would be good to attend.


http://mick-curson.blogspot.com/

Unreal - How many 'panelbeaters' out there can do that !!!???

I know of one young bloke (know him very well in fact - eh Jimmy!!!) who was so disillusioned with his apprenticeship as a panelbeater he bailed after six months as all they seem to do is unbolt / drill out spot welds and refit. Very little actual file finish work etc, and that goes for heaps of shops.

Peach and the dude in the background are old school beaters who actually make the sections, not unlike so many guys on this forum. Even some of the stuff done here amazes me............

Great stuff !

Dave Mac

I think that clip is off that Gasolene show that's on CH31 (TVS) every Tuesday night.

These 2 dudes are usually on at the beginning of the show.

vmx-mxr wrote:Unreal - How many 'panelbeaters' out there can do that !!!???

I know of one young bloke (know him very well in fact - eh Jimmy!!!) who was so disillusioned with his apprenticeship as a panelbeater he bailed after six months as all they seem to do is unbolt / drill out spot welds and refit. Very little actual file finish work etc, and that goes for heaps of shops.

Peach and the dude in the background are old school beaters who actually make the sections, not unlike so many guys on this forum. Even some of the stuff done here amazes me............

Great stuff !

Dave Mac

Yep, got that right! nuts, bolts, clips, sanders, bog, new sections. i think i watched one of the guys do file finishing ONCE, and that was only because he wanted to show me how its done, rather than because he had to.
Oh well, plenty of time to learn

Try finding an apprentice coach builder job, thats what will teach you all that stuff, Trev .

Those guy's are unbelievable they will put g.m.h. out of business
BILL

BILLY BLACKARROW wrote:Those guy's are unbelievable they will put g.m.h. out of business
BILL

Last I heard they were charging $6000 a pair for the monaro rear guards , Trev .

i reckon i could watch people doing that stuff all day i think it's so kool been a few different things on austar with guys doing that once on rides and a couple of times on american hot rod

i think eventually they'de have gotten around to showing jimmy some other skills but pretty much these day that's what panel beaters do replace things and sculpt out of bog, i know my mate that does stuff for me doesn't really like coming and doing actual panel beating work

a mates father who's a beater part of his apprenticship was they put an axe through a VW bonnet and said fix that no bog

Speaking of American Hot Rod, I was watching an episode tonight. Those yanks seem to have a love affair with bog


Cars worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they were piling it on by the bucket load

Cal wrote:Speaking of American Hot Rod, I was watching an episode tonight. Those yanks seem to have a love affair with bog


Cars worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they were piling it on by the bucket load

yeah they don't do alot of panel beating more sculpting BUT with todays fillers if used correctly there's nothing wrong with useing it

Trev wrote:Try finding an apprentice coach builder job, thats what will teach you all that stuff, Trev .

I looked for a coach builder apprenticeship a while ago. I could only find one in australia up in qld.
then had a look at some of the big tools they use bit expensive for learning though.
I wouldnt mind getting a few hammers and dollys and having a play around. It would be a great skill to learn. And a rare skill at that

Scubbs wrote:

Trev wrote:Try finding an apprentice coach builder job, thats what will teach you all that stuff, Trev .

I looked for a coach builder apprenticeship a while ago. I could only find one in australia up in qld.
then had a look at some of the big tools they use bit expensive for learning though.
I wouldnt mind getting a few hammers and dollys and having a play around. It would be a great skill to learn. And a rare skill at that

Start with a Tafe coarse on basic panel beating, they show you how to do basic shaping of metal, like a hub cap and a header panel, it's great fun , Trev .

I agree with all the above but on the subject of price, and what those guys make per item I think it's worth putting things into some perspective.

Assuming it takes these guys a week per side, and they are running a shop doing heaps of other work $6K is in the ballpark. Given what lawyers charge and all the other bullshit jobs out there ripping people off I suppose it's OK? but you have to remember that is just to MAKE the guards - they still have to be fitted up, welded and dressed in. No wonder restored cars and major rust work costs so much !!!

Back when I was doing my apprenticeship I used to stay on at the tech and do the journeyman's course in panel-beating and it taught me enough to be dangerous, and I would highly recommend it if they still have them.

If you want good beaters hammers ebay them in either the UK or the US and you won't get hosed for prices although postage may get you. Dollies are a different story because of weight - even shitty ones can be reworked to be OK.

Dave Mac

G'day Fellas,

Just got a reply back from the producer of the show as attached below,


Hi Jason,

Thanks for your interest in the DVDs and tools. We have discs 1-9 available now and I have included all the ordering details and details about the DVDs below. We do have DVDs in stock so they are available anytime.

The DVDs are available via phone order or via Paypal and there are nine of the metal working DVD series to purchase. Lesson 1 is Introduction to Basic Metal Forming Techniques, Lesson 2 is Introduction to the English Wheel, Lesson 3 is Metal Forming Techniques, Lesson 4 is Aluminium Welding and Lead Loading, Lesson 5 is Edge Wiring, Wheel Arch Return and Basic Mud Guard, and Lesson 6 is How to Make a Door Skin and Steel Welding. Lessons 7 to 9 are the first of a new series on making a Monaro Panel. The techniques used can be applied to making any panels. The DVDs for Lessons 1-6 run for approximately an hour, while the DVDs for Lessons 7-9 run for approximately an hour and a half. If you want any further information on the contents of the DVDs, just let me know and I will give you a summary of each disc.
We take orders for the DVDs via telephone for payment by credit card, cheque, direct bank deposit or COD. The phone number to ring is 0404026286 or if you would like us to contact you, just email back your phone number. Please don't put your credit card details in an email, as it is too unsecure. The DVDs cost $39.95 each plus $7.00 postage and handling.

If you order the nine metal work DVDs, you can buy all nine, with an added bonus disc, for $320 including postage and handling. This is a total saving of $80. Just let me know that you've emailed when you place the order.

If you order Lessons 1-6 of the metal working DVDs, you can buy all six discs, with an added bonus disc, for $180.00 plus $10.00 postage and handling. This is a total saving of $30. Just let me know you've emailed when you place the order.

If you order Lessons 7-9 of the metal working DVDs, you can buy all three discs, for $140.00 including postage and handling. This is a total saving of $20. Just let me know you've emailed when you place the order.

If you wish to pay via Paypal, the email needs to be sent to mick.curson@gmail.com with the correct amount and notes about which DVDs you want.

Peter Tomassini handles all the orders for the tools and English wheels. He is contactable on (03) 9761 4557 during business hours for all queries and orders.

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Regards
Mick
Producer - Gasolene

I restored a 49 Riley roadster for a guy a few years ago. No metter how hard I tried I couldnt get the bonnet to fit. I ended up making a new one from scratch.
I have a friend who builds alloy speedcar bodies. He is a freak when it comes to this stuff.