5spd Indentification help please

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5spd Indentification help please

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Gday Team
Can someone please identify this 5spd i've just aquired.
I have NO knowledge of jap parts im proud to say :D
But, I think I want to use this.
It was removed from a fb/ek fitted with a red6 and I'm told
it is a celica gearbox of some type with holden adapter bellhousing.

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The shift pattern is, R-1-3-5
across the top, below ,2-4

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Anyone recognize it?

BTW, It was given to me, I wouldn't buy something I didn't have a clue about :)
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don't think it's jap looks like borg warner on the side, looks to have holden rear mount and cable clutch set up and looks like commodore gear knob so i'de guess a factory commodore box possably :?
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bell housing looks a bit odd to be holden 6 pattern bolt holes all the way around starter position looks a bit high aswell ?
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it looks like the 5 speed my mate has out of his VK bolted to his 3.3 black
yea im sure thats what it is
I just pulled the gearstick out of it for him yesterday he didnt know it unscrewed
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Post by vintageholden »

i had one
5 speed from vh-vk 6 commodore
borg warner
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Thanks fellas.

It does have borg warner cast on it, thats the thing I twigged with,
I thought the japs would have made their own.

Cable clutch is no good to me though, i'd prefer hydraulic.

Is there a hydraulic conversion avaliable for this box, or
can I just change the clutch fork over and bolt on a slave cylinder?

Thanks for your help so far guys 8) :wink:
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Its also the 5 speed Bog Warmer ( Borg Warner :lol: ) gearbox that was fitted to the Starfire 4 ( Holden 4 cylinder ) engines as fitted to Toyota Coronas in the '80's so yes they did have a Jap application ( well, sort of :? ).

Remember them well when I was a mechanic at a Toyota dealership way back then.
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Thommo i think its a thingy gearbox out of the whatsmacallit thing..Hope this helps. Cheers Mark
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Ok, so far we know its a Commodore Borg Warner 5 spd
which was also fitted to the Starfire 4 ( Holden 4 cylinder )
engines as fitted to Toyota Coronas in the '80's.

Thanks so far,( Oh, except you mark :roll: )

Is it a T5 gearbox, or are they from the later models?

Can I get a Hydraulic clutch conversion for this box, or
can I just change the clutch fork over and bolt on a slave cylinder?

Cheers
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Your most welcome Thommo. Always here to help...lol
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We only used to call them the Bog Warmer 5 speed box Thommo, don't think it was ever called the T5 as I think from memory they were a later box ( I'm not really a gearbox ID expert ).

Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.

I think Reddo had one of these a while back and asked the same kind of question as you, re hydraulic conversion, and didn't really get anywhere with it as I recall.

I would be surprised that there wasn't a conversion kit out there for them as there is still are a fair few of them around.

I'd be having a chat to either Dellow Automotive in Violet street,Revesby, Sydney or maybe Castlemaine Rod Shop and they should be able to correctly ID the real name of the box over the phone and whether there is a kit for them into early Holden.

In the meantime I'll see if I can find some contacts for them.
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Seems to be called the M76 5 speed after looking through oldholden.com's "holdenpeadia" section.

Lookey here :arrow: http://holdenpaedia.oldholden.com/M76

Hope that helps with the ID and some additional info for fitment.

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Also give Dellow Automotive a call ( not in Violet street Sydney anymore, they are now in Daisy street Sydney................ must have liked Daisy's better :lol: )

Have a lookey see at their website here :arrow: http://www.dellowauto.com.au/main.html
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