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original tyre size

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:21 pm
by slimboy66
could someone tell me what the new speak on the original 13 x 6.04 tyre is . i'm after the ratio

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:32 pm
by matches
i'm actually after the same info slimboy so if someone could help out that'd be great.
i'm also after the original rolling diameter for an fb/ek
L&K&K

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:45 am
by blue ute
Here's my take on this
The old 6.50 X 13 Goodyears are approximately 625 mm.
The new speak 185/80-13 with a 148mm sidewall , 313mm radius, 626mm diameter & 1967mm circumference, are a little smaller in circumference than the 6.40x13s but as close as you can get in a radial that will still fit on a stock rim, even they are really a bit too wide for stock rims but are ok, a stock rim shouldn't have wider than a 165 tyre.
The 175/75 x 13 are lower profile than the original fitment (6.40 x 13) but may make the car's gearing too short for comfortable freeway with a standard 3.89 diff.

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:39 pm
by slimboy66
thanx blue ute thats exactly wot i was after

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:40 pm
by FB MAD
Just measured an Olympic "Air Ride" 6.50 x 13 crossply with 3/4 tread left on it that I have on one of my EK's here and it's diameter is exactly 24 inches ( 610 mm ).

Hope that helps.

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:15 pm
by matches
thanks guys, helps heaps.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:56 pm
by Cal
I'm looking at getting some 185/70x13 whitewalls for mine (similar to EK Dreamer's).

Is the overall diameter of these smaller than what these cars came out with? If so I might go for the 185/80x13, though they are a fair bit dearer than the 70 ratio ryres

At the moment mine has 165/75x13, and the thing is revving it's balls off on the freeway. I'm no too fussed if I lose acceleration coz of the taller tyre.

And thanks EK Dreamer for putting me onto the tyre dude 8)

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:37 pm
by FB MAD
Cal,

If you want to stick with the current tyres but don't want your balls to rev on the freeway, stick a red motor 3.36 diff centre in it.

Fits straight into the grey diff housing,axles will even fit and only other thing you have to change is the rear tailshaft uni joint on the grey motor tailshaft needs to be changed to a red motor uni joint ( about $30 for a new uni ).

Just make sure you buy a 3.36 diff with course spline as a fine spline 3.36 ( used in HX Holden onwards ) won't be any good.

This will give you a 0.5 reduction over the grey 3.89 diff and less revs/better fuel economy.

Sorry for getting a bit off track with original post subject matter slimboy66 :oops: .

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:15 pm
by Cal
Thanks Terry, I hadn't realised the diff centres were so interchangable.

I might buy the 185/70 tyres as they are 24.6 inch overall diameter. plus I need new tyres anyway. They have good tread, but look like they've been on the car for decades, and are cracked in places

The tyres on it now are barely 22 inch. No wonder it's revving so hard :roll:

And looking at a previous post of yours, 24 inches is roughly what these cars came out with.

If that doesn't fix it I'll go the diff route. If I dont blow it in the meantime. Got my take off on a hill all wrong the other day and the thing actually spun the rear wheels for a few metres. :oops:

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:40 pm
by slimboy66
hi all i found this on a website it may be helpful to some http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:13 pm
by Cal
Thanks for that, very good site.

Odd though how it says a 185/70-13 is only 23.2 inch diameter, whislt Khumo claims their tyre (same size) is 24.6

It also tells me there is SFA difference between the tyres I have on it now and the Khumo's :?

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:29 pm
by blue ute
This also gives approximate plus/minus speedo readings.
http://members.pcug.org.au/~jdeakins/tyresize.html

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:30 pm
by fb cruisin
Cal,
don't you run a grey :?
If so with 185/70 x 13 series tyres a 3.55 diff ratio is pretty much spot on with my speedo,
on my grey motor
I tried a 3.36 and found a standard grey didn't have the legs for it,

maybe a hot grey :wink:

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:38 pm
by Cal
Yeah, its a stock grey.

I'll get the 185/70 x 13's and see how it goes with the standard 3.89 diff 8)

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:55 pm
by fb cruisin
Cal wrote:Yeah, its a stock grey.

I'll get the 185/70 x 13's and see how it goes with the standard 3.89 diff 8)
I done the same when I got mine on the road,
and I got sick of it revving its head off and going slow :cry:

and I have a new grey motor univeral joint thats done under 100km's