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Blue Engine Help

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:09 pm
by PhantomMan
Good evening -

This is my first tech request :lol: on the forum, i'm sure one of you guys have come across this. My EK has a blue motor, which i know is not the original, i think these came out in the VC, but just wanted to check.

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I was planning to just reco and warm this one up, rather than hunt down a Grey or Red. I'm familiar with the Red's but not Grey's or Blue's :? I heard the Blue's were pretty good anyway?

Any help or suggestions appreciated, i think the enginer number is J92510 but have not been able to find it on any registers.

Thanks
Russ

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:19 pm
by Mephious
Never messed around with grey motors unfortunately mate.

Im pretty sure that there is a grey motor spray painted with blue paint. The J prefix is from an EJ with a 138 Grey thanks to FB_Mad's post on this site http://holdenpaedia.oldholden.com/index.php/Grey_Motor

Looks all original in there for a grey to me. I wouldnt mess around warming the grey motor ... the price it costs for a triple manifold with carbs on a grey you can buy a complete well worked red motor hahahaha.

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:25 pm
by basic.green
hi PhantomMan you have your self a 138 grey motor just painted blue. basic.green

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:42 pm
by FB MAD
Basic green's right.

It's the original grey motor type for that range of models ( 1948 FX Holden to 1963 EJ Holden) but only the engine number will tell you whether its an original EK Holden grey motor.

If it's an EK engine its engine number will start with the letter prefix "B" and will be a number from B 175814 upwards.

If it helps, these are the grey motor engine numbers.

FX Holden starts from engine number 1001.

FJ Holden ( early ) from 121694 and late FJ from U 283384.

FE Holden from L 283373 and FC Holden numbers were carried through with the same letter prefix however there wasn't a defining break in the numbers.

All the above engines were 132 cubic inch grey motors.

138 grey motors started in the FB Holden's with engine number B 1001.

EK Holden started with engine number B 175814.

EJ Holden started with engine number J 1001.

All the above info referenced from Terry Bebbington's 45 years of Holden book.

Hope this helps,

Cheers,

Terry.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:25 am
by smooth
Your blue "Grey" motor also has an EJ oil filler/breather cap.

Regards Smooth 8)

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:13 am
by PhantomMan
SEE! That's why you guys are god's among men... I'll find something more to challenge for you'all next time.

I guess the question has to be asked why's a grey a blue <wink>?

Thanks FBMAD, will keep that info handy.

Many thanks
PhantomM

Blue/Grey

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:36 am
by fb4655
8) What you have is a GEM reco motor much like repco does or did, I have one as well. Mine had been sitting in my car for 3 years in a paddock and when I got the car, it started quite easily with no rattles or noises and no smoke, it will need a rebuild but not yet.
Do you have any spares for your car?
Dan

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:29 am
by PhantomMan
No spares yet - just got the old girl. I have an IT background, so am trying to adjust to the hands-on mode of auto-mechanics!!

Damn door handle clips won;t come off.
Thanks for all the great advice - Smooth, yep i thought it wasn't the original but wasn't sure. I plan to go back as far as possible to original.

Thanks all
Russ

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:35 pm
by Harko
Go for a run up to your local auto parts store and grab a door handle clip removal tool , make sure you tell em if you are right or left handed though .
They are worth their weight in gold because 9 times out of 10 the clip will remain on the handle and not spring away into the long grass.
about $5-$10.

Plan be is to grab a rag and pull it around the handle to snag the clip.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:48 pm
by PhantomMan
thanks Harko - i thought there must be a tool that did the job, although, i'm ambidexterious - i'll have to buy 2! :?

blue engine help

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:53 pm
by Malcolm
Harko, is that the same as the left handed shifting spanner. :wink:
Russ, good advice, if you haven't already go through all the old posts on this site. Even doing that will help you out with all sorts of questions you will have when you start pulling things apart. Especially if your not overly experienced in playing with cars.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:25 pm
by Harko
:D :wink: