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Radiator fan.....
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:22 am
by Dakam
Hi all, just put in the new radiator (HT,HG) and now am having clearance issuses. The one in it previously was HT HG, so theres a size or mounting issue somewhere. The fan I have looks like a boat prop, which gives me about 10mm clearence from the fan to the radiator, but when revvs go up, the blades are just striking the lip of the tank at the bottom.
Not knowing what models have different fans, what fan would suit this one best? I need something quite flat, or offset toward the engine so I get the clearence I need.
Any help would be apreciated.
Cheers, Dave.
Re: Radiator fan.....
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:22 pm
by Trev
Try flattening out the blades yourself, I have just done this with the fan on the red motor that has gone in the wagon.
In my EK I had a fan that I cut the ends off because it was hitting the bottom of the radiator.
Re: Radiator fan.....
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:37 pm
by Dakam
Thanks guys. Was thinking of flattening the blade but was worried that I might disturb air flow, but I might do it if you havent had any troubles with yours Trev. At least it will get me from A to B without worrying about putting it through the radiator.
I will go and have a look Tim, theres bound to be a flat atermarket fan that fits.
Thanks guys,
Dave.
How is the wagon coming along Trev ???????
Re: Radiator fan.....
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:02 pm
by Trev
Been driving it to work since Wed

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Re: Radiator fan.....
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:13 pm
by Dakam
Just bent it all up, got a good clerance now. Thanks guys.
Will still go and look for a flatter job, my flattening skills arent the best.
Thought I would just chuck it in the vice and wind away. Start winding and snap, vice shits itself !!!
Lump of wood and a mallet finally did the trick.
I assume it was worth the change over Trev ????
Dave.
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:15 pm
by Devilrod
I've got a standard hk engine fan on mine and a triple core radiator with no clearance issues Dave although Ot is close. Your mounts might be positioned slightly different to mine. I wouldn't flatten the fan too much as it won't pull as much air through.
Re: Radiator fan.....
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:17 pm
by Trev
One thing I am surprised about is the lack of difference in power between the 138 and the 161

, it is a bit more smooth to drive.
Re: Radiator fan.....
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:20 pm
by Dakam
Dont worry DR, it was more the ends of the blades that needed flattening. It still has an angle on it.
Dave.
Re: Radiator fan.....
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:53 pm
by Mick
Trev wrote:One thing I am surprised about is the lack of difference in power between the 138 and the 161

, it is a bit more smooth to drive.
what are the specs of the 161 though is it new/recoed, stock/modified
Re: Radiator fan.....
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:57 pm
by Trev
SunnyTim wrote:Trev, and it doesn't have the exhaust note either I bet

Not at all

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harry186 wrote:Trev wrote:One thing I am surprised about is the lack of difference in power between the 138 and the 161

, it is a bit more smooth to drive.
what are the specs of the 161 though is it new/recoed, stock/modified
It's a second hand Hight comp 161 from a HKTG, stockie. It's a great running motor, it just surprised me that it didn't have a major increase in power!
The only reference I had to go by was driving the mildly worked reco'd 138 and the second hand 186 in my EK, the 186 is a big jump in performance over the 138, sadly not the 161 (still like it thou)

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Re: Radiator fan.....
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:55 pm
by Mick
Trev wrote:
harry186 wrote:Trev wrote:One thing I am surprised about is the lack of difference in power between the 138 and the 161

, it is a bit more smooth to drive.
what are the specs of the 161 though is it new/recoed, stock/modified
It's a second hand Hight comp 161 from a HKTG, stockie. It's a great running motor, it just surprised me that it didn't have a major increase in power!
The only reference I had to go by was driving the mildly worked reco'd 138 and the second hand 186 in my EK, the 186 is a big jump in performance over the 138, sadly not the 161 (still like it thou)

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bit unfair compairing a fresh wored grey with a second hand 161

but if there is a noticable differance between yor 186 powered EK and the 161 powered FB maybe i'de be looking somewhere else

may just be the slight engine size differance and the wagon being a bit heavier do you know the weight differance between them
Trev wrote: (still like it though

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Ohh welcome to the dark side

shame you won't be as kool anymore

Re: Radiator fan.....
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:26 am
by Trev
harry186 wrote:
Trev wrote: (still like it though

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Ohh welcome to the dark side

shame you won't be as kool anymore

What are you talking about? I've been driving my red powered EK for more than 7 years! Bit late for welcomes

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I have only driven 1 EK with a Hydra (fairly fresh motor) and compared to mine (with trimatic) it was a slug.
Maybe you've only driven sluggish greys?
Other things different between the 186 and 161 is the 161 has 3.36 diff with 215/75 tyres, the 186 has a 3.08 diff with 195/75 tyres.
Both are second hand motor that blow no smoke.
Had to give the grey a go, probably would have kept it but it was (is) my daly driver. Once a week or month would have been not a problem

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And for the record, I've never been Kool (as hard as I try)

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Re: Radiator fan.....
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:48 am
by Craig
Trev wrote:
I've never been Kool (as hard as I try)

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Even less so now Trev
What are you doing posting at 3:30 am has red tube crashed
Dakam sounds like you are running a flex fan (any pics) a standard fan would give you more clearance
I know plenty of people bend or flatten fans with no dramas but you can throw it out of balance or weaken it with disasterous results (think of having your head under the bonnet when a blade lets go)
Craig
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:37 am
by Devilrod
Craig wrote:
Even less so now Trev
What are you doing posting at 3:30 am has red tube crashed
Nah more like he needed a break from dungeons and dragons.

Re: Radiator fan.....
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:55 pm
by Mick
Trev wrote:
What are you talking about? I've been driving my red powered EK for more than 7 years! Bit late for welcomes

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with previous disscussions on greys maybe it should have said welcome back
Trev wrote: I have only driven 1 EK with a Hydra (fairly fresh motor) and compared to mine (with trimatic) it was a slug.
Maybe you've only driven sluggish greys?
i've driven a wide variety of them from good con old engines to fresh recoed to worn out to one with a rod hanging out the side of the block

for about 30k's in traffic

even a couple of hotties but don't like them for the exact same reason you mentioned you changed yors they don't suit my driving habbits/style/conditions

once again so nobdy gets confused i'm not knocking them if that's what you want good on you
Trev wrote: Had to give the grey a go, probably would have kept it but it was (is) my daly driver. Once a week or month would have been not a problem

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And for the record, I've never been Kool (as hard as I try)

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yes you never know if you don't give it a go my chopped 2 door had a good hotty grey rebuilt bottom end cam head twins extractors 4 speed but it still did nothing for me if i hadn't sold the car it'de have got a red put in it
