Fitment of a Gen III 5.7 Litre.....Can it be done???

camstuart52 · Post by **camstuart52** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:06 pm

I did think about the toyota engine but if i can go holden i would like to keep it that way!!!

The 5.0 injected engine, I have thought about and I have decided against it.... 1) Because as ratbox said, it will use the same as the 5.7....maybe more

2) They are older and there for they will be more used and worn.

3) They are a heavier engine - and i would like to keep the weight down as much as possible.

I am thinking the 5.7 is the option to go for, yes it will be more expensive, but it will be good fun and theres nothing like a challenge, and i`m pretty sure it hasnt been done down here!!!

mrs ratbox · Post by **mrs ratbox** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:44 am

a couple of issues back there was an EH in SM mag with a gen3 maybe worth a look

camstuart52 · Post by **camstuart52** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:39 am

Yeah i missed that issue, any ideas how to get a copy???

Would be an interesting read!!! It can be done and I would like to certainly give it a shot!!! (Well my mechanic)

mrs ratbox · Post by **mrs ratbox** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:03 pm

have you spoken to an engineer and rego authorities yet
as they could put a big damper on yor plans

camstuart52 · Post by **camstuart52** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:21 pm

Planning on doing this on Monday....if i get a chance!!!

I know i have seen EK's with a V8 in them, but i just dont know if they will allow one this big, so iu will certainly check, and certainly hope its allowed!!!

Just quickly.....is there any kits made for the 5.7 Gen to go into an EK, or anything along these lines that will help the fitment???

Also there wouldnt be anything like this for the toyota motor, so wouldnt this make it a more expensive exercise, even when the half cut would be $4000-$5000 cheaper???

What do you guys think???

mrs ratbox · Post by **mrs ratbox** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:42 pm

kits try pat gardener www.v6conversions.com.au
or castle auto electrical don't know anymore than they are at castlemain
good luck i,m pretty sure this will be a very tricky and expensive exercise but if it's what you want there's only one person that it has to please, and don't get the impression that i don't like the idea i do will be trick if or when done

oohh another thing that may be a drama and or expensive re: the gen3 the sump, they're not normal

camstuart52 · Post by **camstuart52** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:42 pm

Hey guys just wondering how much a EK holden ute weighed.....require the kerb weight!!!

Just need to know this so that i can find out what capacity engine i can fit!!!

PLEASE

Thommo · Post by **Thommo** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:04 pm

camstuart52 wrote:Hey guys just wondering how much a EK holden ute weighed.....require the kerb weight!!!

Just need to know this so that i can find out what capacity engine i can fit!!!

2452 lbs Ute Model 2016

camstuart52 · Post by **camstuart52** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:41 pm

Right well I have found out........ready!!!

I cant do it......going on the standard weight of the utility (Kerb Weight 2452 lbs = 1114.55kilo`s....i then have to times this by 0.4

1114.55x0.4
=
445.82

This means that i can have an engine which is 4.45ci

So here is my dilema -

I want a V8.....maybe must have

and i really dont want to be forking out a shit load of money on fuel, so please throw me your ideas and opinions on all ideas.....I was thinking a quite old 253??? The toyota engine 1uz-fe, but it will be very hard to fit as its HUGE!!!

So please go nuts with recommendations!!!

(AUST)Mod · Post by **(AUST)Mod** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:05 pm

RB30 FTW

Devilrod · Post by **Devilrod** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:14 pm

Blown V6.........

mrs ratbox · Post by **mrs ratbox** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:15 pm

injected 5 litre with a 253 number stamped on it

if you want to be legal intected top end on a 253 bottom end

check the formular and calculations cause i'm pretty sure in every other state in OZ you can at least have a 308

camstuart52 · Post by **camstuart52** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:18 pm

Sorry it does appear that i have made a mistake......when the car weighs over 1100kgs you times it by 0.5......this makes it.....5.572ci

So yes the 308 is a possibility and also a 327 Chev or a 307 Chev!!! But i do want to be able to get some decent fuel consumption out of it!!!

So i guess thats better than my previous calculations and this one is correct

So thoughts on fuel consumption, is the 308 heavy on juice??? Or does it depend how you drive it, and also whats the difference really between the 253 and 308 when it comes to fuel consumption....???

So many questions i know....sorry!!! Wish i could go 350

Trev · Post by **Trev** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:30 am

The injected 308 is very good on juice.
I had a mate with one in his VK Commodore that got 500 km to the tank and my stock 6cl VK was good for about 280 km.
Trev

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FB MAD · Post by **FB MAD** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:23 am

To please the rego authorities and to perhaps make it cheaper and maybe a little easier to fit, like Trev said I'd go for the 308 injected ( 304 if we want to be technical ) and maybe once its fitted and passed by the rego authorities you might be able to stroke it to around the 355 ci mark with a stroker crank if you really want the 350 cubes.

If you go 308, have a play with it for a few months before you think about stroking ( I'm talking about the motor here

) as I'm sure you'll be happy with the performance of the 308 in an FB/EK as is, and your wallet will thank you as well.

Terry.