Ammo's Ute

FireKraka · Post by **FireKraka** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:16 am

Hi Roger I did see one back up the page when looking from back to front on the drivers side but thought my eyes were just playing tricks, said like them a lot as we say subtle

I found the fc rear bumper fitted quite well I didn't cut anything out of it just welded it up and hid all the bolt holes etc.
looking good.

Neil

Errol62 · Post by **Errol62** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:23 pm

Hats off to you doing the mods yourself Roger. I like to stay stock because it’s easier and I’m lazy, part of the reason at least.

FB ute fixer upper, EK van on rotisserie

In the Shed · Post by **In the Shed** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:26 pm

Hey Roger
Yes did note the early signs of tail light mods and say good onya for having a crack at your own metal work whatever your aiming at. As you say it looks easy on the TV! For me I like a stock ute, even if I have to remind myself of the fun driving it with no heater, drum brakes and the factory fitted no performance grey donk........ all part of the 60's experience!

Regards
Stephen

Post by **Blacky** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:18 pm

I have seen this ute in the flesh and know what Roger is talking about but I will keep quiet ..........

FJWALLY · Post by **FJWALLY** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:42 am

Those taillights look Killer Roger - very nice touch.

Wrongway Roger · Post by **Wrongway Roger** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:08 pm

Hi,
Steve – stock is good and I do appreciate a rebuild but subtle custom is for me.

The change to a rear FC sedan bumper, which has been done before a number of times, but I do not like the over ridders.
Clay scored the bumperettes for his ute.

I looked at Neil’s rear bumper on Frank but not sure on the painted finish.
There are spray on chrome like Hydrochrome and Exteme Hyrochrome out of the UK but for $600 + shipping maybe a little expensive just to try.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6kypid0XG0

Purchased this one from Cary, one of our club members and straightened it.

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I did consider a single piece bumper but the re-chrome cost sky rocketed to a quote of $1,300 +
Straighten and narrowed it, to tuck the ends in closer to the body and then chromed.
I lowered the number plate surround, to remove the gap between the top of the bumper and the bottom on the surround. Normally you would see the body but as I intend to use the narrow number plates I wanted to clean this up.

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I will still use the domed bolts to attach the bumper and Anne-Marie like’s bling and the chrome bumpers hits to spot.

The front bumper has been narrowed and off the A Class Plating this week.

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Did not like the joining faces on the rear bumper so made a couple of gaskets.
Needed to slice the rubber from one section into a ¾ curve and glue to the flat section.
Needs a little tweaking but happy so far.

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Lots more time spent that I anticipate to modify the bumpers. A lot of weld, grind, re-weld, file and hand sanding.
But as we know with chrome you only get a good result if the substrate is smooth.

Cheers,
Roger

Wrongway Roger · Post by **Wrongway Roger** » Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:52 am

Hi,

I have modified a HR front pan which again seemed a simple task but they are much wider and have substantially different corners.
Once I had cut it in half and started working the metal, I did enjoy shaping, cutting and welding to achieve the desired curves. My bottom lip dropped somewhat when I looked at the other un-started piece and realised, I had to repeat the curve but in the opposite direction.
Currently sitting in rough fill.

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Second fill and sand completed.

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I’m considering adding driving lights somewhere on the front so maybe in this pan or in the indicator housing.
Another consideration is HD - EH style in the pan and a set of side indicators in the front guards. This would allow the driving lights to go into the indicator housing.

A little cold in Adelaide today so I cleaned off the heaters and set them going.
Running cost is around 50 cents an hour so fairly inexpensive.

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Cheers,
Roger

Errol62 · Post by **Errol62** » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:13 pm

Fantastic ideas there Roger. I toyed with the front pan idea, using an inverted fb cowl vent. Nowhere near the right shape and pretty flimsy, but the louvres would have looked nice.

Radiant heaters are a great idea.

FB ute fixer upper, EK van on rotisserie

Wrongway Roger · Post by **Wrongway Roger** » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:46 pm

Hi,
Interior changes started with the bench seat now out of Mazda BT50. This gives me a drop down centre arm rest.
I may modify the arm rest to include cup holders and possibly some storage space for wallet, phone, etc.
Modified the seat mounts to match up to the existing bolt holes.

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I have not decided on the shifter yet but did purchase a B&M Quicksilver some time back. Looking at it now it seems too chunky so I’m leaning towards a Lokar unit. Much simpler smoother lines but costly.
This is why the tunnel has not been opened up.

Using side mounted handbrake – HQ style from a Mazda, I think. It was centre mounted with the cable going through steel flex tube to the rear wheels.

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I do not like to look of the standard diagonal cross wire for the hand brake so this is what I’m currently working on.
Transfer the chalk drawing on the bench to paper.

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I will use a pair of the pivot wheels from the firewall and mount these through the floor in the tub.

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I will need to check the tail shaft clearance before proceeding so I’m packing this away of the time being.

Back to blocking now.

Cheers,
Roger

62ekute · Post by **62ekute** » Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:20 pm

Nice work Roger...mmm...a heater (mmm...a roof). I should have thought about it before filling the garage with a pool table and working on cars in the driveway. Did you bring that dented bumper back to life yourself or did you outsource that? Patrick

Wrongway Roger · Post by **Wrongway Roger** » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:51 pm

Hi Patrick,
With the help of my son holding the bumper and I with BFH and oxy torch, we were able to save the bumper.
Pounded out the biggest dents then put it aside to consider further action. If I stay with one thing for too long, I give a little pissed that the progress in slow and this gives me time to look to ensure I'm going in the right direction.
A lot of welding and filing to get the shape back. There were a lot of small dents that don't show in the photo's.

I'm a tight arse so don't out source unless it can't be done in the shed, like chrome plating or panel dripping.

Too cold to do a lot today but did spend time measuring the diff and the wheel arches for new wheels.
Tried a heap of wheels, steel and alloy, that I have but nothing fits. Most have the tyre sitting outside of the rear guard
Calculating off set and back spacing with rim width.

Cheers,
Roger

In the Shed · Post by **In the Shed** » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:33 pm

Good work Roger,
That bench seat looks good. Hmmm...... cup holders would be handy. I've tried juggling my keep a cup between my legs, but it ain't easy with vinyl seats, hot cup burning the wedding tackle whilst shifting gears & steering.

I'm with you, I like to have ago fixing things myself before farming jobs out. Save a few bucks but it is very satisfying turning a job around yourself.

Regards
Stephen

FireKraka · Post by **FireKraka** » Fri May 01, 2020 1:00 pm

Hi Roger I'm with you 'home built not cheque book built' as far as I can with my limited experience and skills.

Always tell the wife I am building on a budget and use a lot of second hand parts etc.

Keep up the photo posting mate and I think we should have our one Ute Nationals one of these days there seems to be a lot around now all coming out of the woodwork.

Neil

Post by **Blacky** » Fri May 01, 2020 1:05 pm

OK - no-one else has twigged so I will ask the question

" Wow Wrongway, the back of that ute looks so clean and uncluttered - how in the world did you hide the tailgate hinges ??????? "

Wrongway Roger · Post by **Wrongway Roger** » Fri May 01, 2020 4:17 pm

Blacky, hate say but little progress on the tail gate hinges, other than a couple of mock ups.
I have a deep respect to the engineers back in the day, who designed boot and door hinges.
I only sat the tailgate in position to get the taillight photo's.

Mechanical upgrades started with HR disc front end and narrowed commodore, rear mounted steering rack.
It has 202 and trimatic auto so Anne-Marie is OK with this. I do have a small SC14 super charger which may or may not be added.
I have done the reverse leaf changes on the HR rear and lower springs in the front. I will see how it sits once all the drive train it in but I want it low.

For the brake system, I’m using Gemini booster on the PBR dual master cylinder.
Modified a HQ brake pedal to clear the steering column as I moved the booster across and had the front calipers rebuilt.