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hey west why not look around for a 138 red or a 149 red and then just bolt up the five speed you have, or do you know any body handy with fabrication you could make a thing i've seen before, looks like a shark jaw and bolts where the inspection cover goes and has the brackets for the rear engine mounts
or you could sell it to me

the conversion was to suit hq (for my tonner) the reason i took it out was because the bellhousing cracked it even broke the "legs" if thats what u call them, off the motor
the gearbox worked great, smooth with no other problems.
it has a new clutch,bearing and carrier.
i paid $600 + the new clutch etc(cant remember $$? bout $200ish )
ratbox if you want it $450.
i think im gonna bite the bullit and go small red6 and traumatic
that way it keeps it auto

westy

i mean't sell me the wagon, do you know that small red 138 or 149 although hard to find you don't need engineers report
and something that i may or may not have done is put a 149 red motor number on a 186 and grind the size off the block as 149's don't have a size on the side of the block i refer to this as an external destroke

I have seen that "external destroke" before, funnily enough I think it was in one or two of my cars! But my memory might be fading!

Regards, Smooth

yes i may or may not have done it quite a few times my self maybe my current car might or might not have it done because it goes quite well for a 149

sorry ratbox, i thought u meant the box

hmmm that sounds interesting
good idea
the bloke that does my blue slips said he will pass 149 red with drum break/king pin front
think im gunna head down that road.

westy

do you know where you can get a 149 red if not i'll keep my eyes out, quite a few pop up on ebay but usually miles away

iv been asking round but no one has one, or 138reds, seems like there a thing of the past
iv been watchin ebay but like u say "miles away"
no rush, rome wasnt built in a day

westy

I was after a 149 red a while back and couldn't find any for months then all of a sudden they started to appear here and there via the grapevine and ringing around.
Bought a complete rebuilder for $100,good low mileage ex EH Holden one complete for $150 and another old runner for $80 via evil bay and a 138 red long engine from evilbay for $30.
Transport costs is the biggest killer, if you have a trailer and can pick up yourself you can save heaps.

I know a wrecker in Tenterfield who has a few 149's but thats a fair way from Cowra.There's an old Holden wrecker near Cooma that had a complete 138 in an LJ Torana but he wanted an arm and leg for it so I let him keep it.

The 138's are harder to find than 149's but there are some still around here and there.

I'll keep an eye out for either engines if you want.

Terry.

Forgot something,

Here in N.S.W you are (at least at the moment) allowed a 15% increase in capacity over the maximum size engine without having to have an engineers cert. So a grey powered car can have a red up to 158.7 cubes which negates fitment of a 161 (just) but allows 149 fitment.

My local AUVIS (blue slip ) inspector also said that he would pass a 149 red in an FB without any required modifications as long as the engine mounts were welded properly and fitted to his satisfaction.Kingpin front/drum brake with 138 or 149 red is OK.

From memory the EH 179's didn't have the "179" cast in the block same as the 149's but later ones in the HD's did.....Smooth might be able to confirm or otherwise.
Wonder where you can buy those may or may not engine number stamps .

Terry.

i think i might invest in some stamps
yea i will prob go 149 just because 138 reds are like rocking horse s$$t
hmmm maby i should look into a 308/turbo 350

but seriously yea 149,trimatic
nice and simple

westy

yeah 149 tri simple
we had my current car going in three days which included remove all grey motor stuff fit hr front and diff hq floor hump fabricate rear crossmember and get brakes working including handbrake